>>Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:50:47 -0500
>From: "Nancy L. Newfield" <colibri@GS.VERIO.NET>
>Subject: What's Next - Food for Thought

>Hi Y'All,
>
>I brought this topic up a week or so ago and had hoped to get a bit more
>response - read opinion. However, I received several nice discussions and
>will post those with my own discussion.
>
>NORTH CAROLINA
>>
>John A. Gerwin of the North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences
wrote:
>
>I believe if you sit in one place long enough you can see just about every
>bird in the world pass by! As for hummers, I expect any of the more
>migratory ones to show up here eventually; like Broad-tailed and
>Buff-bellied; I'm sure Allen's is here, we just haven't documented it yet;
>it's been documented in every state around us! And there was a good sight
>record report of a Blue-throated in S.C. a few years ago, so I'm hedging
now
>that one will make it here; while I believe 'anything's
>possible', I'm not expecting the really "desert dwelling" ones to show up;
>unusual hummers and "winter hummer feeding" are getting more and more
press;
>so as more people start doing it (winter feeding) all over the place, I'm
>expecting a lot more interesting things to start popping up, maybe in say
>the next 5-10 years; should be interesting!>the next 5-10 years; should be interesting!
>
>John, you didn't give the ones on the NC list, but the ones you mention
are
>all excellent choices.
>
>TENNESSEE
>
>Chris Sloan of Nashville, Tennessee, wrote:
>
>For anyone interested, here is the current status of hummer species in
>Tennessee:
>
>Ruby-throated (duh)
>Rufous (numerous records each winter)
>Allen's (4 records, interestingly all from the higher elevations of east
TN)
>Black-chin (3, all females)>Black-chin (3, all females)
>Anna's (1 female)
>Calliope (1 female for the past two winters)
>
>My guesses as to the next species, in order of likelihood:
>Broad-tailed
>Magnificent
>Buff-bellied
>Green Violet-ear
>
>Yep, Chris good guesses, but I'd put Green Violet-ear at the top of the
>list. Y'all are overdue.
>
>ALABAMA
>
>Big Bad Bob Sargent of Trussville, Alabama, wrote:
>
>Here is the list of lost and doomed hummingbirds that have been docum>Here is the list of lost and doomed hummingbirds that have been documented
>in Alabama:
>
>Ruby-throated
>Black-chinned
>Rufous
>Allen's
>Broad-tailed
>Calliope
>Anna's
>Buff-bellied (now inland)
>Magnificient
>Green Violet-ear
>Blue-throated (accepted sight record, not banded)
>
>The next species that I expect to be documented in Alabama are
Broad-billed,
>which is long overdue in the Mobile/Gulf shores/Fort Morgan area. In>which is long overdue in the Mobile/Gulf shores/Fort Morgan area. In
>addition, I still believe that Costa's is likely in the near future as our
>network of reporters/feeder tenders/skilled banders continues to grow.
The
>folk that feed hummers are the source of most of our rarities. They
deserve
>the credit for the discoveries, my guys are simply the instrument by which
>proper documentation can occur.
>
>Who, besides Nancy, would have dreamed that all these wonderful creatures
>would be found in Alabama?
>
>I will ask Mr. Bennett Carver (who stole both my White-eared and
>Broad-billed) to fill us in on the official Mississippi list. A special
>note; For those Louisiana listers that wish to do so, I suggest that you
>add White-eared to your Louisiana list since the Gulfport bird surely flew
>across
>Louisiana. You might also consider adding the Alabama and Georgia>Louisiana. You might also consider adding the Alabama and Georgia
>Magnificent. You can shift the Alabama Green Violet-ear off your list
since
>you now have one of your own to claim. I have used this system of birding
>and listing for years and find it works very well.
>
>Bob, I don't think that Bennett's White-eared necessarily came through
>Louisiana. At the time it arrived, all [??] the White-eareds from Arizona
>had surely departed for points south. I think you can anticipate
>Broad-billed soon, and as for Costa's, who knows.
>
>And, congrats on the book. I can't wait to see it!
>
>By the way, the Green Violet-ear was my #400 for LA.
>
>CALIFORNIA & ARIZONA
>
>Marjorie Hastings of Spring Valley, California, wrote:>Marjorie Hastings of Spring Valley, California, wrote:
>
>I have two brief thoughts The CA List has 12 species now accepted and AZ
>has 16. Back in the first week of July it was stated that not many spoke
up
>on line well the number since then is up to 83. And I feel I learn
something
>all the time from so many of you .
>
>Thanks, Marjorie. I'll have to look up the species lists. Does anybody
>have any guesses for next for California?
>
>And, the Arizona list is actually 17. Don't forget the Bumblebee
>Hummingbird! As Sheri Williamson mentioned in a post earlier today,
Arizona
>could still add Ruby-throated! And, I'm sure there are a couple of other
>exotics that have the potential to stray. With a Green Violet-ear record
>pending from Colorado, what about that one?>pending from Colorado, what about that one?
>
>KANSAS
>
>Charles A. Ely wrote:
>
>Thought you might like the Kansas list (9 species) as of this summer. All
>were verified by a specimen, recognizable photo or individual handled &
>measured, etc or a male confirmed by an experienced birder.
>
>Magnificent (1 record, photo)
>Ruby-throated
>Black-chinned
>Anna's (4 records, at least 2 photos)
>Costa's (2 records, 1 specimen & 1 banded)
>Calliope
>Broad-tailed
>Rufous>Rufous
>Allen's (1, banded)
>
>Any guesses for the next one?
>
>ARKANSAS
>
>David Arbour wrote:
>
>Arkansas has eight hummer species on it's state list including one that
>Louisiana doesn't have yet:
>Ruby-throated Hummingbird
>Black-chinned Hummingbird
>Rufous Hummingbird
>Anna's Hummingbird (3rd & 4th state records were in my backyard last
fall!)
>Broad-tailed Hummingbird (1st state record was in my backyard.)
>Buff-bellied Hummingbird>Buff-bellied Hummingbird
>Magnificent Hummingbird
>Green Violet-ear
>
>The next probable hummer species to be added to the AR state list will
>probably be Allen's followed by Calliope, since both these species seem
to
>be wintering south of us in LA with increasing frequency!
>
>Yes, David, two excellent choices.
>
>FLORIDA
>
>Lyn Atherton of Tierra Verde, Florida, wrote:
>
>Below are the hummers that have been documented in FL (by specimen--whole
or
>pertinent feathers, photo, or videotape), with note on species still>pertinent feathers, photo, or videotape), with note on species still under
>review by the FOSRC.
>
>Buff-bellied
>Bahama Woodstar
>Ruby-throated
>Black-chinned
>Anna's
>Calliope
>Rufous
>Allen's (still under review but surely to be added to state list soon)
>
>Cuban Emerald has appeared in FL (I was one of the lucky ones to hear and
>see it), but no tangible evidence exists yet (must have to add to the
>official state list). I do think this will be one we'll add within the
next
>10 years. Also, I think all of those not yet confirmed here but already
>proven to have occurred in other southeastern states will be found he>proven to have occurred in other southeastern states will be found here
>within the next 10 years--except, perhaps, for the White-eared (just seems
>too good to be true). I will even predict where most of these
>yet-to-be-found species will occur--somewhere between the AL/FL line and
>Tallahassee.
>
>And I'm sure that Green Violet-ear visited my Ft. De Soto feeders before
it
>headed back towards LA. (Thanks, Bob, for letting me in on how to add it
to
>my Ft. De Soto list!).
>
>I'm sure you are right Lyn. Now that my "envie" has been satisfied, we
can
>work on yours. And, don't forget to call me when the next Bahama Woodstar
>[or Cuban Emerald] shows up! I'm a fast driver.
>
>LOUISIANA>LOUISIANA
>
>The Louisiana list stands unofficially at 11:
>
>Green Violet-ear [pending acceptance by the LBRC]
>Broad-billed
>Buff-bellied
>Blue-throated
>Ruby-throated
>Black-chinned
>Anna's
>Calliope
>Broad-tailed
>Rufous
>Allen's
>
>John Sevenair of New Orleans ventures:
>>
>Just thought I'd throw in a vote before I head for points north. There
are
>eleven hummers on the Louisiana list, and the next one might well be
>Magnificent. There've been records north and east of here, so why not?
>
>Another good guess. Maybe it will be at your house, unless those rowdy
>Buffies run it off!
>
>And, Ron Rovansek, formerly of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, wrote from exile in
>New Jersey:
>
>My guess for the next Louisiana hummer is the obvious Magnificent
>Hummingbird (Eugenes fulgens). This one has been spotted in every(?)
>adjacent state to LA, so must have pased over LA at least once or twice.
>Probably stopped by Casa Colibri while Nancy was in Costa Rica.
>
>Second guess is Costa's hummingbird as the next new bird for any Gulf>Second guess is Costa's hummingbird as the next new bird for any Gulf
coast
>state (I don't think there are any records of Costa's Hummingbird east of
>west Texas) This species disperses in a westward direction in the fall
(from
>southern California into northern Mexico, I think) which
>would put it on a course for the southeast, and if not an adult male would
>be very easy to mistake for a female or immature Archilochus.
>
>Again, Ron, these are good guesses. As you probably remember, I thought I
>had a Costa's in January 1996, but I was never able to prove it. There is
>one record for the Texas "Hill Country" and another from near the coast
>somewhat near Corpus Christi.
>
>While we're guessing, what about Green-breasted Mango? Once those guys go
>astray, one could work its way up the coast from one patch of Sultan's
>Turban to another. Van mentioned this in conversation a few years ago.
>Stranger things have happened! And, there is a Violet-crowned record>Stranger things have happened! And, there is a Violet-crowned record from
>Freeport, TX, only 400 miles from Casa ColibrÌ.
>
>OREGON
>
>David Tracy wrote:
>
>Saw a post of yours from Fri. 7/23 asking about state hummers. For Oregon
>there are:
>
>Allen's
>Rufus
>Black-chinned
>Broad-tailed
>Calliope
>Anna's
>Costa's - Still on OBRC review list, submitted a rare bird report
fortheforthe
>COHU that visited our feeder this Spring/Summer for about the 10th state
record.
>
>Next addition? Maybe Broad-billed. There was one well documented report
in
>Eastern OR last summer.
>
>Since the Broad-billed record is pending, it'll have to be disqualified
from
>your guess list, but surely there are some other good choices. How about
>Ruby-throated? Or Xantus'?
>
>TEXAS
>
>Well, nobody spoke up for Texas, so I'll have to wing it. With 18 fully
>documented species, the list of possibles is slim, but Cinnamon
HummingbirdHummingbird
>has been recorded very close to the state's western border, and I think
>there's a Plain-capped Starthroat record pending in New Mexico.
>Rufous-tailed could easily sneak up from Mexico as could Canivet's Emerald
>or Wedge-tailed Sabrewing. Violet Sabrewing [the 'Harley-Davidson' of
>hummingbirds] might also eventually show up! Hey, you guys in Texas keep
>looking.
>
>Anybody else have any guesses>
>
>NLN
>Nancy L. Newfield