sponsored by the
Museum of Natural
Louisiana State University
(para versión en castellano presione: NEOORN)
*** Remembering Paul Coopmans ***
NEOORN is an email bulletin board devoted to disseminating information on the biology of Neotropical birds. Its primary purpose is to improve communication among those working on Neotropical birds. NEOORN is multilingual; most postings are in English or Spanish, but Portuguese and French also welcomed. NEOORN is open to anyone interested in Neotropical birds. As of January 2012, 819 people were subscribed to NEOORN.
Frequent general subjects of postings include requests for information on particular bird species or regions, literature relevant to particular topics logistics of working in particular countries, including local contacts, conservation status of particular species, conservation alerts, and job openings. Check recent messages (http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NEOO.html) to see examples.
NEOLIT: a regular feature of NEOORN is the posting of literature citations for papers relevant to Neotropical ornithology. For details, click:
NEOORN has a Facebook group; it's a convenient place to post photos, videos, and to network: NEOORN Facebook Group
• To subscribe:
send message to: listserv@listserv.LSU.edu
with only the following as text:
subscribe NEOORN-L Your Name
Do not put your name in quotes or brackets
[do not expect an instantaneous response -- it may be 24 hrs or longer, especially on weekends, before I process the request, although the usual wait is a few hours]
[if that message is bounced back to you, try hitting a "return" character after your name and see if that works; if that doesn't work, contact Remsen]
• To unsubscribe:
to remove your name from the list, send message to: listserv@listserv.LSU.edu
with only the following as text:
(if that doesn't work, try hitting a return character at the end of the text; just let Remsen know if you have any problems.)
[if that message is bounced back to you, try hitting a "return" character after your text and see if that works; if that doesn't work, contact Remsen.]
The only rules are: (1) be polite, (2) do not distribute attachments to the list, because attachments are the primary vectors for viruses, (3) in replying to a message, to keep message bulk at a minimum please include only that part of the original message necessary for understanding the reply (not the entire message) , and (4) avoid sending personal messages to the entire list. The latter is a frequent problem because the way NEOORN is set up is that a reply to a message on NEOORN goes to everyone on the list, not just the person who sent the message. (If you want to go to my website for the:
Hall of Fame of Most Embarrassing Personal Messages on NEOORN,
now accessible to roughly 1 billion people, including close family, click here: Hall of Fame.) It is always a good idea to check the headers in your email program to see where your message is actually going. To minimize this problem, we recently made all NEOORN messages appear with the code "[NEOORN-L]" in the subject line -- therefore, a reply to any such message will be distributed to everyone on the list.
• To post a message:
Send your message to NEOORN-L<at>listserv.LSU.edu, with the topic in the subject line.
Other guidelines and rules:
*** please do not forward warnings about viruses unless you have first checked these out -- the majority are hoaxes -- e.g., see: http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=hoaxes
*** please avoid carrying on personal conversations on NEOORN. If a message in your inbox has "[NEOORN]" in the subject line, then a reply to it will normally go to NEOORN as a whole, not just the person who sent the original message.
*** please use avoid sending messages that are likely of interest to one and only one other person on the list, e.g., congratulations on finding a good bird.
PDF requests: over the last few years, one of the most useful services provided by NEOORN has been distribution of hard-to-find pdfs. However, please make an effort to locate a pdf first before asking for one from NEOORN. The following ways of getting a pdf should be tried before posting a request to NEOORN:
1. Contact the author(s) of the paper directly by tacking down their email addresses. Researchers with their own websites often maintain files of pdfs of their papers that can be downloaded directly from their site.
2. If it is from a North American bird journal, try SORA.
3. Try Google Scholar, as follows (from Laurent Raty):
copy/paste the paper title into the search field.
- add 'filetype:pdf' (without quotes) to the search expression.
- add double quotes around THE FIRST FEW (say, 5-10) words of the title.
The quotes help because, without them, and unless the title includes really very specific terms, your search will likely turn out stuff that you're not looking for.
But you should never place a too long title entirely between quotes in a search, because Google does not necessarily identify consecutive lines in a pdf file as being continuous text. If you place a title that is parted over several lines in the pdf between quotes, it's likely that you won't find the file at all.
4. The Peregrine Fund Research Library has an amazing collection of reprints, from which they are willing to make pdfs for you for no charge!
5. Some older literature is available in digital form from archival sites – see NEOLIT site for those links (at the end of the page).
Please make sure your email program is set to send messages in Plain Text, not HTML (the "web" language often used in internet email programs, especially hotmail.com accounts) or "rich text" format -- if you need help with that, click here.
If I receive bounced messages for 2-3 days in a row (usually due to ISP problems), then I will likely delete your address from NEOORN. Don't take this personally -- I just get tired of receiving many bounces per day. Just go ahead and resubscribe when the problem is fixed. Also, as list manager, I get very tired of processing bounced messages from addresses with "mailbox over quota." If your address bounces with "mailbox full" messages for more than a day, I will likely change your subscription to "digest" mode, i.e., you get only one composite NEOORN message per day.
Those who would rather have this option regardless, see below for instructions on how to change to "digest" options.
Another frequent problem is when your postings are rejected by the listserv (with a message that indicates that you are not "authorized" to post messages to NEOORN-L), yet you are still receiving NEOORN messages. This is usually because your email address has been modified by your institution or ISP, yet messages to the old address, i.e., the only one that NEOORN recognizes, are still automatically forwarded to the new one. To fix this, "subscribe" with the new one, and (assuming you can no longer send messages from the old one), ask me to delete the old one manually.
The most frequent mistake made by people when sending messages and commands is using "NEOORN" instead of the name recognized by the listserv software: "NEOORN-L."
For additional information or feedback, contact NEOORN "owner" Van Remsen <click>. Be aware that I actually take vacations, go to meetings, etc., and so if days go by without me answering a query, don't take it personally.
Neotropical Ornithological Society: http://www.neotropicalornithology.org
Neotropical Bird Club:
Other useful commands:
[if that message is bounced back to you, try hitting a "return" character after your text and see if that works; if that doesn't work, contact Remsen]
• To change addresses:
All you have to do is do the "signoff" routine above for the old one, and "subscribe" with the new one.
• To set to "no mail":
If you are worried about exhausting your mailbox capacity, which will cause me to delete you if the problem goes on for more than a couple of days, you can "inactivate" yourself (and then "reactivate" upon return), without having to signoff and then resubscribe, by sending the following command to the listserv:
SET NEOORN-L NOMAIL
(and then, to reactivate: SET NEOORN-L MAIL)
• Digest format
Another solution to the "out-of-town" situation (or to mailbox clutter in general), if you want to still see what has been happening, is to get only 1 message per day from the list, a "digest" with all the messages.
SET NEOORN-L DIGESTS
(and then, to change back: SET NEOORN-L NODIGESTS)
• To contact others on NEOORN
Rather than send a message to all members of NEOORN to see if someone knows someone else's email address, please first send the following command to listserv@listserv.LSU.edu :
The list you receive is organized by alphabetically by ISP, unfortunately, so to find a name, you have to use your email program's Search function or copy the entire list into your word-processing program. you an email message with all the names and email addresses of those currently s
NEOORN is archived at LSU, but to save disk space, the oldest year's messages are occasionally deleted. The archives may be accessed in a number of ways. First, you may retrieve the entire index. Simply send a message to the listserv@listserv.LSU.edu with the following message:
Make sure that the requests are sent to the listserver, not the list.
Second, you may actually search the archive. Let's assume that you would like to search for all reports on icterid roosts. Send the following message to the listserver:
SEARCH ICTERID ROOSTS IN NEOORN-L
will then receive a list of all messages that contain a direct
reference to icterid roosts. Once you have chosen a message
to retrieve, send another request to the listserver as follows:
GETPOST NEOORN-L ####
Most people will want to use the SEARCH feature when reviewing the archives.
Once you have received the index, you may retrieve any message as follows. Send a message to the listserver with the following message:
GET NEOORN-L LOG####