Proposal (1078) to South
American Classification Committee
Change the English name
of Camptostoma obsoletum (sensu stricto)
The
English names for the various species resulting in the split of Camptostoma
obsoletum (sensu lato) were decided in proposal 1062, some after a lot of
back-and-forth discussion and multiple voting rounds. The AviList English Names
Committee (ENC) has since also voted on names for these species, and for five
of the six they unanimously accepted the names decided by SACC. However, Camptostoma
obsoletum (sensu stricto) has continued to cause problems. For that
species, the AviList ENC voted 6-1 to not use the name Southern
Beardless-Tyrannulet, and to go with Austral Beardless-Tyrannulet. However, as
advocated by several voters on proposal 1062, that name is (depending on who
you ask) somewhere between less than ideal to downright horrible.
Despite
the guideline that for most split species the former common name should be
retired, it has been pointed out that this is merely a guideline. Others would
point out that the risks of retaining the name are especially egregious when
the English and scientific name would stay the same, or when a split is not a
simple two-way split but a multi-way division of a widespread species. There
are additional reasons that this particular case could be considered among the
worst possible to make that exception. Most of the daughter species resulting
from the Camptostoma split are among the most encountered (or at least
often-heard) tyrannulets in their range. There are many dozens (if not
hundreds) of published field guides and identification resources that use the
long-standing name “Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet”. There are likely even more
academic publications that use both that name and the scientific name, but
don’t refer to what would be meant by that combination now.
This
is greatly exacerbated by how birding works in the current age. If we retain
the name Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet, a birder visiting Ecuador, or Peru, or
Colombia, etc., will almost certainly be using a field guide that uses that
same scientific AND English name. Most birders aren’t nearly as educated about
recent taxonomic updates as we all are, and when they go to eBird to log their
sightings, or Merlin (or the Macaulay Library, or xeno-canto) to listen to a
sound of the species, they will be directed to the wrong taxon for where they
are. Local guides using English names may not be up to date on changes and thus
may tell their clients the wrong species. And anyone referring to any mention
of “Southern Beardless-Tyrannulet” will need to figure out if that mention is
of the pre-split or post-split species.
To
give an example of the staying power of this type of issue, eBird recently had
to change over 1000 records of “Winter Wren” from the Himalayas, due to the
retention of Winter Wren as a common name. Keep in mind that this change was
from before eBird was even available in that part of the world, and from
a part of the world where that name wasn’t as universally used as Southern
Beardless-Tyrannulet was before that species was split.
Aligning
with SACC is very high among the priorities of the AviList ENC, and they have
indicated that they will very likely go along with a better suggestion than
“Southern” for this taxon. The name “Subtropical” was suggested by Josh Beck,
and the non-Andean portion of the range of Subtropical Doradito mirrors that of
this tyrannulet (but not that of the Subtropical Pygmy-Owl). The definition of
“subtropical” given by Google AI is: “geographic and climate zones immediately
north and south of the Earth's tropics, typically located between 23.5° and 35°
to 40° latitude”, so it is reasonably descriptive of this species’ range.
We
are under a bit of a time crunch here, as the AviList ENC needs to finalize
names by July 15th. To keep things simple, this proposal offers two
options: voting NO indicates that you are voting to retain Southern
Beardless-Tyrannulet for Camptostoma obsoletum. YES is a vote for
Subtropical Beardless-Tyrannulet.
Andrew
Spencer and Pam Rasmussen, June 2026
Vote tracking chart:
https://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCPropChart1044+.htm
Comments from
Donsker (voting for Bonaccorso): “I completely buy the argument presented
by Andrew and Pam in SACC proposal 1078 that it would be wise to reconsider the
English name of Camptostoma obsoletum (sensu stritco).
I vote YES for their suggested English name Subtropical Beardless-Tyrannulet.”
Comments
from Zimmer: “I vote
YES to change the English name of Camptostoma obsoletum (sense stricto)
to Subtropical Beardless-Tyrannulet, for the reasons stated in Proposal 1078. I don’t remember that name suggestion coming
up during our previous considerations, but I like it, and it seems entirely
appropriate and not too unwieldy.”
Comments
from Rasmussen: “I vote YES for Subtropical, which for the reasons in the
proposal seems a far better name than any of the others that have been
considered. The main downside that I can see is the number of syllables (10),
but likely when birding I'd think people will usually just say ‘Subtropical’ or
‘Beardless’ anyway.”
Comments
from Josh Beck (guest voter): “Just to give credit correctly, Subtropical wasn’t
my idea; it came from friends in Argentina and Uruguay who were really happy to
have been consulted. I merely passed it along! So, I’m personally very happy
that a name that came from birders / ornithologists in C. obsoletum’s
range is presented as an option.
“In any
case I like Subtropical essentially as well or better than any of the other
options and am happy with it as the least problematic of all options suggested
so far, so I vote YES to use Subtropical instead of Southern.”
Comments
from Remsen: “YES in
the spirit of compromise. Given that the policy that in parent-daughter splits,
a daughter should not retain the parental name, I’m normally strongly in favor
of that, i.e., the ‘one taxon, one name’ principle, but it’s a guideline, not a
rule, and in this case “Southern” was a good name in my opinion not only
because it was accurate but also because it was a nice foil to ‘Northern
Beardless-Tyrannulet’.
“As with
the majority of English names, it’s easy to find fault but usually difficult to
find something better. In this case,
‘Subtropical’ could apply just as well to some other Camptostoma,
including Northern, but so be it.”
Comments from Rosenberg: “I vote YES
for Subtropical. I agree with Van that Southern still seems like a more
accurate name - but I also understand the issue of confusion with older field
guides - although that is an issue with many newly named species (at least in
terms of not having the accurate name - but perhaps not in actually
representing the WRONG species). So as a compromise, I am fine with using
Subtropical (although the word Subtropical is often used to delineate an
elevation difference from the “Tropical” zone - as in Subtropical Pygmy-Owl).”
Comments from
Areta: “I am not sure of why this has
become a Subtropical yes/no proposal. There are only 2 other
"Subtropical" birds, both of which have distributions largely
encompassing the Andes, in the "Subtropical zone": Glaucidium
parkeri and Pseudocolopteryx acutipennis (the latter
having apparently recently expanded south and east to colonize the lowlands of
Argentina, as we discussed here).
So, if Subtropical is to mean anything more or less precise, the third
"Subtropical Beardless-Tyrannulet" would be complete mismatch to what
the other names were referring to. I
vote NO to Subtropical and vote in favour of Meridional Beardless-Tyrannulet.
one of the names that was an option in previous proposals. Incidentally, I am perfectly fine
with nominate obsoletum retaining Southern (as current SACC
treatment), and I am also perfectly well with obsoletum being called
Austral (as in AviList votes). So, I think that the current proposal is a step
backwards in the naming of this cute little bird that is close to my heart.”
Comments from
Spencer: “I obviously vote YES for Subtropical.
While it, like anything else we've come up with, has some issues, I think it is
the best option voiced so far. Thank you to Josh for reaching out to so many
birders in Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay, and coming back with that option! To
be fair, I was also, in the end, ok with Austral (but didn't like it). In
response to Nacho on Meridional, I think that word is just too obscure to be a
name I'm happy voting for. If the species was some obscure tapaculo or
tyrannulet on an isolated mountain range somewhere, I might be more willing to
choose an essentially unknown word as the name. But for such a common species
I'd rather avoid it.”
Additional
comments from Remsen: “Because
‘Austral’ has emerged again, I again provide the graphics that show why
‘Austal’ is not just bad but ‘wrong’, and it would corrupt the tight
connotation it has with the 7 SACC species already called ‘Austral Something’.”


Additional
comments from Areta: “I have here added the missing Tropic of Capricorn to Van´s
map. As can be seen, the species could have been more aptly called Tropical, if
one follows the arguments against Austral (which in my mind just equates to Southern). The range of C. obsoletum in the
"subtropics" is even smaller than shown, as it does not occur in the
huge Puna Plateau area included in the sketch (I know it is just a fast
sketch). I also don´t think that the traveler birder argument should be the
main concern here: we should focus on a much broader audience of users of these
names. Given the broad geographic range of obsoletum, it makes perfect
sense to retain Southern for the nominate, widespread species. As such, the
pretended accuracy of Subtropical vanishes and it does not match what other
concepts of Subtropical have been applied to South American birds.”


Additional
comments from Donsker: ““Nacho’s map helps. Perhaps we’re overlooking an obvious
(albeit unlovely) name ‘Southeastern Beardless-Tyrannulet’.”
Additional
comments from Rasmussen: “I still think that Subtropical is
the best name we have for Camptostoma obsoletum. It gets the idea across
that the distribution of this species is somewhat removed from the equator, and
to me is at least as, if not more, helpful than Pacific, for example, for
something that occurs along a small portion of one side of the Pacific Ocean
(but I definitely am not suggesting we revisit that one!). I checked
iNaturalist for usages of Subtropical in the names of other organisms, and
there are several, but none have very similar distributions to C. obsoletum.
If we choose to use the dictionary definition of Subtropical, then this bird
gets rather too far into the tropics for it to be a perfect name, but as we all
know perfect names for drab creatures are hard to come by. In thinking of other
usages of Pacific for bird names, and then comparing it with how radically
different those usages are to this proposed usage of Subtropical I think its usage
is completely defensible. Southeastern would be serviceable, and Argentine
would be fine too, but I continue to vote for Subtropical."